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[SamuriHL]

That's cause it needs to be rooted. Which I don't think you can do til it's booted. Catch 22.

[tmyinc]

That's cause it needs to be rooted. Which I don't think you can do til it's booted. Catch 22.

Ah yes sir you are right. Slipped by me.

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[newskate9]

so, just for fun........... it does boot. it doesn't activate, but it does boot. Using the pull down menu, I can set up wifi, add accounts, etc. I just can get to the launcher without going thru set up.

So, I wonder, as long as it is booted, would HoB utilities take me to that next level - i.e. allow to root? IF it does, then adb is open to su?

Ha, all this and my verizon store it 4 minutes from here, and SIM card. But, that's not the point!!!! It's a quest - and I chance for me to learn some more.

[SamuriHL]

You can try it. If you can set USB debug and MTP mode then you should be able to root in theory.

[tmyinc]

Sorry if I fed into this lol. I would have thought up more ideas but pain pills kicked in and I dozed off. Sorry for hijacking your thread Sam. I tried to stay away from doing that.

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[SamuriHL]

Don't worry about it. It's at least not a user error thing. Nothing in the FAQ or HoB post covers "hey I got no sim....wtf do I do?" So, it's a fine discussion.

[newskate9]

Thanks, guys. I certainly wasn't trying to hijack either. I'll post the learning and if you want to "delete" it for fear of confusing or not adding any real value, that's all good too.

[tmyinc]

Thanks, guys. I certainly wasn't trying to hijack either. I'll post the learning and if you want to "delete" it for fear of confusing or not adding any real value, that's all good too.

No worries. I pick on Sam cause I randomly throw my stupidity into his threads lol. He's used to it by now . But yes let me know how it goes and I'm rattling my brain over here too
Thanks for being awesome guys!

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[SamuriHL]

Well, if you can document a process, I can throw it in the FAQ for others that may run into a scenario like this.

[newskate9]

OK. So, I used the HOB and rooted! THEN - I adb and used the commands above. It showed root! But, when I tried to "insert" the device provisioned, it could not do it. So, I had another idea.

Well, as I was able to set up my google account I downloaded my sqlite editor. I don't have access to launcher, but when you load an app, there is an OPEN button. I used it. I found the com.android.providers.settings, and then opened the settings.bd.

There several options: one was secure, one was settings. I attempted to ADD the line using the editor but it FAILED. Error 5?

The database, I can see it, but cannot edit. Seems error 5 is common, but with the phone in this state a bit hard to problem solve.

ALSO - I downloaded a launcher thinking if I had two or more, I'd get asked for the "default" choice. And then, when I rebooted, it would go to launcher. NO LUCK in that.

But I"m able to navigate around by using the play store / launcher combos - as long as I don't reboot. I'd still like to figure this out so I may play some more.

I'd like to pay back, to write something up for the forum, if there's some nuggets here that you might find interesting, point them out and I'll take a shot.

[tmyinc]

Sorry just woke up lol. Did sqlite editor ask for root permission upon start up? Error 5 means that the database is locked. Either root didn't work or its pissed you tried it with adb with no root lol. I would try opening up su from within the play store since you can't navigate within a launcher. Try updating su binaries, reboot, and try sqlite again.

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[tmyinc]

It also could be locked since you tried adb and hadn't rebooted since. It will lock it if trying to open the database from 2 different places I'm thinking.

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[newskate9]

good morning. tried updating su, it needed it. ran sql again, still locked. I've rebooted a few times, no go.

I'l try an auto start app and see if that bypasses it. May be ready to put this one on the shelf soon!

[soocold]

I'm thinking there is a provision in settings.db that can turn off the check for the sim card. Might have to be brave to try it though lol.

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I believe the build prop has a line dreading with requiring activation.

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[newskate9]

Sam et al - please feel free to delete all the "bypass" entries. It really ended up adding no value to the thread. I learned quite a bit, but my situation was very specific and most folks reading that far won't have need. Also, I'd write something up, but again it would likely never be used as I was trying some very specific for a very short time need (i.e. go get a sim card, you knucklehead....).

Thanks for all the help - I've been able to get as far as I needed on temp basis to see what's there - AND have gained confidence on the HoB tool set. Both wins in my book.

[johnlgalt]

Sam et al - please feel free to delete all the "bypass" entries. It really ended up adding no value to the thread. I learned quite a bit, but my situation was very specific and most folks reading that far won't have need. Also, I'd write something up, but again it would likely never be used as I was trying some very specific for a very short time need (i.e. go get a sim card, you knucklehead....).

Thanks for all the help - I've been able to get as far as I needed on temp basis to see what's there - AND have gained confidence on the HoB tool set. Both wins in my book.

Interestingly enough, I cannot count the number of times I've seen a user say something similar to this, only to find that, later on, say, 3 months down the road, another user comes into a forum and is looking for the exact same information.

Do the writeup, if you're willing, able, and don't mind - you never know who you might end up helping in the long run. And that is the exact purpose of forums such as these - to help.

Besides, your exact procedure may never help someone - but it might inspire someone to try a similar procedure for an entirely different purpose....

[SamuriHL]

I agree with John. (Congrats on becoming a mod, btw, John. ) I'm going to leave he information here. It's not hurting anything and if someone does search for it and finds it useful, so much the better.

[newskate9]

Good enuf. I'll take to writing!

[tmyinc]

Good enuf. I'll take to writing!

And thank you for going along with my nonsense. Is contagious I know lol.

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[newskate9]

And thank you for going along with my nonsense. Is contagious I know lol.

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Are you kidding? THIS Is why I do this. I learned another method of playing with the phone, built confidence in the process, the tools and even more in the people doing this. I editing my build.prop. I edited system files using SQLite (at least I tried!). I found a work around for me...... all this based on good questions and suggestions. All your NONSENSE is why I'm here!

And I have a write up! What's the best way to transfer it to you all? I can PM and you guys can edit at will / post. I can send a file? Your call.