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#821 pm1066

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:45 AM

it's actually extremely accurate because you begin discharging the millisecond you unplug and can't qualify for 100%

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Not exactly. It is a function of trickle charging, it has nothing to do with this out any ROM. The phone will keep bumping along just below 100% as it charges and discharges.

There are some rather extensive articles on the Internet about how these modern batteries charge and discharge during recharging cycles if you're really interested.

My phone will routinely show 100% charge, but it is basically lying to me when it does so based upon the charge and discharge state it's currently in.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:52 AM

Here's a quote from FoxKat over at droidforums. It's a response to a similar question I had asked him a few months ago:




You've discovered the unique characteristics of how Lithium Ion batteries need to be protected while charging. During the charge cycle, the charger's metering system is watching both voltage levels as they rise, and also current draw as it decreases while the battery fills. Once the voltage approaches peak optimum voltage, the charger switches from rapid charge (Stage 2 charging) to a lower rate of charge (Stage 2 charging) and then then continues charging until current draw reaches about 3% of capacity and then a very slight drop in voltage occurs. It's this unique set of level changes that signals the battery has reached its safe charging capacity. At that point the charging system shuts down and it then simply monitors the battery levels. If it didn't shut down the battery would continue to draw power but it would be stressing the battery and shortening its lifespan.

While in the rest state, the battery naturally discharges slowly over time. A typical LI battery will lose about 10% of capacity over the initial 24 hours after charging completes. The rate it loses charge is highest right after charging stops and tapers off as it gets closer to the 10% drop, so in the first hour or two it's not unusual for it to lose 2% or 3%, and can lose 5% in only a few hours - even with the phone off. If the phone is on this obviously happens much faster.

Once the meter determines the battery has lost 10%, the charging system resumes the Stage 2 charging to top off the battery until the battery once again reaches 100%, at which point the charging system shuts down and the whole cycle starts all over again. If the phone is off during charging this may never actually happen over the few hours from reaching full capacity to when you remove it, but if the phone is on, it can happen several times overnight. This is one of the two main reasons WHY it's so important to charge with power off at least while doing the training. It is also why so many complain of their phone "losing power" immediately after being removed from the charger. Imagine if it had lost 9% by the time the phone is removed, but the owner is not using a 1% meter. They turn the phone on and in just a few minutes the additional 1% loss from the phone using power causes their 10% meter to drop from 100% to 90%, seemingly having used up 10% in just those few minutes. This is how this happens.

The second reason why it's so important to charge with power off during the training is because with the phone powered on, the "parasitic load" of the phone (using power while charging), can cause the characteristic drop in voltage that can fool the meter into thinking the battery has reached capacity even if it's far from being fully charged. This can result in a battery only reaching 70% or 80% charge level, and that is why many times people think their battery is bad. Nothing could be farther from the truth. If this happens several times back to back, the meter can get so confused about the levels that it doesn't show accurate levels and the potential is that the meter will allow the phone to continue using power even well past where it should have shut down at 0%, causing a deep-discharge of the battery and potential damage or permanent destruction of the battery. Doing the training every 2-3 months will mitigate this and prevent deep-discharging.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:24 PM

Not exactly. It is a function of trickle charging, it has nothing to do with this out any ROM. The phone will keep bumping along just below 100% as it charges and discharges.

There are some rather extensive articles on the Internet about how these modern batteries charge and discharge during recharging cycles if you're really interested.

My phone will routinely show 100% charge, but it is basically lying to me when it does so based upon the charge and discharge state it's currently in.

Here's a quote from FoxKat over at droidforums. It's a response to a similar question I had asked him a few months ago:


I've actually read about this in the past both with my Incredible, and from FoxKat. I understand what is happening and why, I've probably just been catching it in the morning when it's in the middle of those cycles.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:51 PM

I've been noticing lately that my phone will just freeze up and I'll have to do the three-finger-salute (power+vol up+vol down) to reboot it. It seems to happen once a day.

Any ideas? I'm not overclocking or anything. Has anyone else experienced this issue with this ROM (v1.1)?

Thanks!

I've noticed something similar on mine. I've never had to force a reboot because of it but the screen will freeze for 5 seconds or so and then move on to whatever it is it was supposed to do. It pretty much always happens when doing multitasking type things. Also, I have frequent redraws of my home screen (at least that's what it appears to be) after getting out of an app, settings or whatever. The home screen will come up pretty much blank. Things come back slowly with the circle widgets usually the last thing to appear. Don't know how long but by the time it all appears, several seconds have gone by. My brother is running the same rom and says he hasn't noticed any of that kind of thing. Just for the heck of it, I restored a nandroid of Ikream today to see if it acted the same. I used it all day and it was smooth as silk without one hiccup all day. So, I don't know what to say about it. There's something about this rom my phone doesn't like. Or, the other way around. :)

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:16 PM

Would anyone know if someone made a mod to allow the top portion of the home screen to be used? By top portion, I mean when you take out the google search bar, that row cannot be used for anything.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 03:35 AM

Good afternoon! Is there any possibility to install this FW on Moto XT910? If yes, please, tell, how. Thank you.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:49 AM

Flashed this this morning, was running Arctic HD when it first dropped and dug it. Came over from BWJB AOKP. Followed all installation instructions and was getting a boot animation freeze. Wiped cache and good to go. Just wanted to put that out there in case anyone has the same issue and panics. Thanks for the hard work!
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:04 AM

I've noticed something similar on mine. I've never had to force a reboot because of it but the screen will freeze for 5 seconds or so and then move on to whatever it is it was supposed to do. It pretty much always happens when doing multitasking type things. Also, I have frequent redraws of my home screen (at least that's what it appears to be) after getting out of an app, settings or whatever. The home screen will come up pretty much blank. Things come back slowly with the circle widgets usually the last thing to appear. Don't know how long but by the time it all appears, several seconds have gone by. My brother is running the same rom and says he hasn't noticed any of that kind of thing. Just for the heck of it, I restored a nandroid of Ikream today to see if it acted the same. I used it all day and it was smooth as silk without one hiccup all day. So, I don't know what to say about it. There's something about this rom my phone doesn't like. Or, the other way around. :)

I've had the same experience as you. Rebooting only helps for a short time. If I do a full wipe and re-flash it'll be fine for a day or two at the most, then slow to a crawl. I have absolutely zero apps downloaded, so I know that's not it. Eh, I just put up with it because I love the rom. Lol :)
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:51 PM

Good afternoon! Is there any possibility to install this FW on Moto XT910? If yes, please, tell, how. Thank you.


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these are the instructions used to get it on my XT910

#830 jonwgee

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:15 PM

Anyone have their ring tones and notification tones not stick after awhile? I have them all in system/media/xxx

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:22 AM

Hers what it's doing

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:33 PM

is there a way to turn the battery% off and just use the stock battery?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 06:04 PM

Stock ICS or stock Blur?

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

Just stock blur

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:50 AM

I've been following this thread for a while now and I really want to give this rom a spin. What's keeping me from doing so is that I really like the stock Motoblur email app. Yes, call me crazy. I have Touchdown and it's OK, but Motoblur email has really grown on me. Is there a way to get Motoblur email installed with this rom?

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 08:52 AM

I've been following this thread for a while now and I really want to give this rom a spin. What's keeping me from doing so is that I really like the stock Motoblur email app. Yes, call me crazy. I have Touchdown and it's OK, but Motoblur email has really grown on me. Is there a way to get Motoblur email installed with this rom?


Yes you can. Just delete the email and the exchange apps with TB. Reboot and install the blur app. Grab the blur app from any blur ROM

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 05:06 PM

I've been following this thread for a while now and I really want to give this rom a spin. What's keeping me from doing so is that I really like the stock Motoblur email app. Yes, call me crazy. I have Touchdown and it's OK, but Motoblur email has really grown on me. Is there a way to get Motoblur email installed with this rom?


The other thing you can do is download this zip

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Extract the apk's inside and install them in you current blur rom. This will give you the launcher and circles widget and a couple others from the Razr M. I've done this successfully on several roms, including CM10 and AOKP JB roms..
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 06:20 PM

Stock ICS or stock Blur?

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Either one. Id like just a standard battery, this thing lasts all day. Always. No need to obsess about my battery percent.

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:52 PM

So I have been out of here for awhile due to wedding planning and actually getting married to my now wife and we just got back from our honeymoon in Cancun. I heard that this rom is no longer going to have any updates or anything bc of some drama going on...is this true??? I really like this rom alot

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Posted 14 October 2012 - 07:55 PM

So I have been out of here for awhile due to wedding planning and actually getting married to my now wife and we just got back from our honeymoon in Cancun. I heard that this rom is no longer going to have any updates or anything bc of some drama going on...is this true??? I really like this rom alot


Congratulations and welcome to the married life. Dude you're a newly wed. Don't let a crack flashing ruin your marriage :o

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