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[extirpate]

I thought backups would not be compatible going from SS2 to SS3?

Also, I can't get the download link to work for the Droid Razr (Maxx) version:

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They won't be compatible. Backup what you can with Titanium and w/e else you use. Like, apex will save my screens and launcher settings.

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[tdomonte]

Does anyone have a mirror? Every link is dead, every mirror is dead. The only one that worked for me turned out to be safestrap OG.

[extirpate]

I thought backups would not be compatible going from SS2 to SS3?

Also, I can't get the download link to work for the Droid Razr (Maxx) version:

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To clarify, nandroid backups are not compatible. Titanium and w/e what you use will work just fine.

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[lazer]

To clarify, nandroid backups are not compatible. Titanium and w/e what you use will work just fine.

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Ok Thanks for the clarification. Proceeding with instructions now.

[DemoManMLS]

Hashcode is on hold with the tech support for his hosting right now. Long hold from what he's saying. In the meantime for those looking for Safestrap 3.0.4 Beta here's a quick reuploaded I just did to my Dev-Hosting account:

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Please read the instructions in the main post that Hashcode posted.

[extirpate]

Hashcode is on hold with the tech support for his hosting right now. Long hold from what he's saying. In the meantime for those looking for Safestrap 3.0.4 Beta here's a quick reuploaded I just did to my Dev-Hosting account:

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Please read the instructions in the main post that Hashcode posted.

Thanks Demo!!

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[Hashcode]

Updated D/L in the OP while we get rombot.org sorted out.

[The_Chupacabra]

I just tried to flash an older ROM that I had on my Ext SD card and I tried a couple of them and they both boot looped, then I tried going back to Stock Side and andy was on his back so I simply rebooted and went into SS and powered off from there instead of Rebooting and it came back normally.

[D Stave]

No problems here so far. I really appreciate how much faster it is to wipe everything. Minutes has turned to seconds.

[trikotret]

So far I flashed Droid HD 1.1 with this new toy. So far so good.

[desireaftergod]

I have had an issue come up with being low on storage (as I was restoring TB)...I never had this is with SS2. It seems like I have a lot of duplicate files. Any suggestions?

[vtwinbmx]

Working great it a major improvement thanks for your hard work

[newms323]

I went nuclear on my phone. Saved the files I needed to my pc, then fast booted and wiped it clean. I've had zero issues

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[desireaftergod]

A file called ss and the sdcard both contain the same stuff. Can I blow one of these away? If so, which one?

[RacerRon]

I also kept getting the low storage errors with both 1 and 2 gig partition. I also started getting the low storage warning on the stock rom slot. For the time being, I am back on ss2.11. Maybe I'll hose it all and start fresh when there is more time available to mess with it.

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[alexh037]

Getting low storage error too w 2gb partition. Didnt install that many apps. Its look really good though thank you sir for your hard work its gonna be so sweet.

[snives]

Started 100% fresh and getting low storage with all 2gb and 3gb partitions. Haven't tried 1gb.

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[mrredpants]

Here are my questions for hash: (im on a bionic)

For the sake of this post:
*External sd is just that, the card you insert
*Internal sd is 8 gb partitioned of 16 gb total space (on bionic)
*Emmc is the 8 Gb partitioned for.operating system and data (apps).

1. Where is the stock rom and data stored? Emmc?

2. I understand that the slots are on internal sd, so, to use all that space (hypothetically 8gb), one would need to format that partition. When i formatted in 3.04 recovery, it didn't appear to work. But, assuming it is formatted, I create slots. Slot 1 I did as three gb, installed ROM...when i view that Folder in OS, all i see are the three files that get created in recovery when i create slot. Is this where the actual ROM and data are being stored? I guess I'm thinking if i had a better understanding of where things are being stored, it would make more sense how to size the slots.

3. Can a "stock" ROM / zip be installed on a slot? I.e an ICS leak for bionic.

4. Lastly, before i installed v3, i toggled to UNsafe to boot and uninstall v2 and install v3. There were two odd things. One, the safe strap v2 app wasnt there. I had to reinstall, uninstall 2.11 recovery and then uninstall 2.11 and install 3.04. Also, all the apps that i had installed on safe side in my custom ROM showed up in my UN safe stock ROM. Is this normal behavior if i don't wipe after toggling?

5. What is the ss folder on emmc? (seen at root using a root explorer)

That should do it. As I've said before, this is an astounding application.

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[nukeruss]

Installed last night. Everything works great. Made one Rom with 2 gb data and installed aokp. Made second with 1gb data and installed High Octane CM-10. Restored about 75 apps to each and each are running flawless. I wish I had only made the first rom slot with 1gb so that I could install aosp.

[Hashcode]

Here are my questions for hash: (im on a bionic)

For the sake of this post:
*External sd is just that, the card you insert
*Internal sd is 8 gb partitioned of 16 gb total space (on bionic)
*Emmc is the 8 Gb partitioned for.operating system and data (apps).

1. Where is the stock rom and data stored? Emmc?

2. I understand that the slots are on internal sd, so, to use all that space (hypothetically 8gb), one would need to format that partition. When i formatted in 3.04 recovery, it didn't appear to work. But, assuming it is formatted, I create slots. Slot 1 I did as three gb, installed ROM...when i view that Folder in OS, all i see are the three files that get created in recovery when i create slot. Is this where the actual ROM and data are being stored? I guess I'm thinking if i had a better understanding of where things are being stored, it would make more sense how to size the slots.

3. Can a "stock" ROM / zip be installed on a slot? I.e an ICS leak for bionic.

4. Lastly, before i installed v3, i toggled to UNsafe to boot and uninstall v2 and install v3. There were two odd things. One, the safe strap v2 app wasnt there. I had to reinstall, uninstall 2.11 recovery and then uninstall 2.11 and install 3.04. Also, all the apps that i had installed on safe side in my custom ROM showed up in my UN safe stock ROM. Is this normal behavior if i don't wipe after toggling?

5. What is the ss folder on emmc? (seen at root using a root explorer)

That should do it. As I've said before, this is an astounding application.

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Whew.

Ok I'll tackle these 1 by 1:

1. There is only 1 emmc chip in the device (it's 16gb) and there are about 25 partitions on it. Of those there's a stock /system, /data and /cache partition (#20, #24 and #21 I believe). There is also the 8gb emstorage partition (#25) shown as /sdcard and formatted vfat to be treated like an SD card as well.

2. I don't think a "format" of the sdcard area will work correctly while in Safestrap (and I should probably build a "smart" replacement for this function). The reason is that the recovery has already mounted that partition and is using it for storage of private Safestrap files (active_slot, translate, and potentially more).
2a. a 3gb data partition is probably overkill for all but the most intensive phone users with literally 100's of apps. My recommendation is to stick with 1GB data unless you are a heavier phone user and then go with a 2GB data partition. If you're a nutty gotta have all of those apps kind of person, then 3GB is the way to go. The reason is that the larger you make any individual rom-slot, the less space there is for others.
2b. Each data slot includes a 600mb system and 300mb cache on top of the size of data partition you select. So for the 1GB data it's very close to 2GB TOTAL space used for that rom-slot. And going with that math, if you create 4 of those you will use almost all of the internal space (which was how it was intended, and why we have 4 slots available).
2c. If you create a 3GB data partition that means you're using close to 4GB for the 1st slot. This means you will only be able to create 2x 1GB data partitions if you had the maximum free space on the emstorage (/sdcard) partition.
2d. The virtual rom-slot files (system.img, userdata.img and cache.img) are all stored in "rom-slot#" directories in the emstorage partition under the "safestrap" folder. These are large partitions formatted as ext3 but kept in 1 file which are mounted at boot time if that rom slot is active. To the OS they are identical as the stock partitions once they've been setup.

3. A stock ROM can be installed in a rom-slot, but only in the form of a "MotoBlur" ROM which has been setup by myself or another ROM dev. The reason is that there are key changes in the init files which let the ROM be setup on the virtual rom-slots. Eventually I might have a feature which copies the stock ROM into a rom-slot and adds the necessary changes. But that's all up in the air.

4. One of the down sides of the v2 Safestrap is that it shared the /data partition across the safe ROM and the stock ROM. So during the "swap" from one to the other, it would take everything on the /data partition and back it up into a file on the sdcard, and then extract the old stock ROM's data information back onto the /data partition. If there was any problems in that transition then you could end up with a mixed set of data (and it happened occasionally for one reason or another). This doesn't happen on v3 because every ROM has it's own set of files.

5. "ss" is the mount used by Safestrap to run the virtual ROM-slots. It's identical to the "/sdcard" mount. The reason I have a seperate mount for Safestrap is that the OS can unmount the "sdcard" at times for various OS features (UMS, etc) and we really can't do that if you're using files on there.


Hopefully, that clears things up.