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[claps1775]

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over
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Roger that over.

I have Moto Razr....I will cut you.

[Redflea]

Someone is going to have to explain this to my wife...I promised her ICS today, and she is not a woman to trifle with! ;-)

<running and ducking and pointing finger at VZW>

[Brailagise]

november oscar oscar bravo sierra uniform sierra echo lima oscar lima

[MkVsTheWorld]

Which tells me Q2 is bull... And we still have a while to wait

I think we could still get it by the end of the month. We've had so many stable leaks and the last one I hear has little to no problems. For all we know, they could start a soak test next week and begin pushing it out to us before the month is over.

[bugly]

They could... but then again there could someday be peace in the middle east as well. Anything is possible, but I've seen bi red drag their feet more times than not. I just think its time for a new carrier, what with the new data share pricing and all the slow updates... maybe they just shot themselves in the foot

[midas]

The Q2 date scares me, let me tell you why. Back in the late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. We were in the process of rolling out the first Winmodems. Most of you guys are probably too young to even know what a modem is. But the Winmodem was a breakthrough in technology at the time. It was the first modem to off-load the main processing from a dedicated DSP chip to having that processing performed on the users own computer. It made for a much less expensive product.

But it was the last of our modems to get the x2 protocol pushed out to it. x2 was a proprietary implementation of the 56K modem and the precursor to V.90. But it was released before it was ready. And it was released because promises had been made to release by a certain date. There were at least 3 different departments, including my own, that refused to sign off on the release. But they released it anyway. This was the first time a product from USR had ever been released with even 1 department refusing to sign off. And this one that 3 that refused.

It was a support nightmare. We created a lot of angry customers. All because a date had been promised and they were determined to not let that date slip.

I rely on my phone a lot more than I relied on my old modems. I'd prefer they wait until it's solid rather than release it just to meet a self-imposed deadline. Anyone that thinks they are holding off on this release for any reason other than the fact that it's not ready is, IMO, delusional.

[bugly]

I remember the old 9600 baud modems that you had to place a land line handset on top of....lol I'm old....

[midas]

I remember the old 9600 baud modems that you had to place a land line handset on top of....lol I'm old....

Not to get too far off topic, but that was called an acoustic coupler modem. You may be older than you think because I don't believe too many people had them higher than 300 baud. There were a few made at 1200 baud, but that was the practical technical limit on that technology.

[Redflea]

Not to get too far off topic, but that was called an acoustic coupler modem. You may be older than you think because I don't believe too many people had them higher than 300 baud. There were a few made at 1200 baud, but that was the practical technical limit on that technology.

Couple of whippersnappers! I remember the Campbell's Soup Can Modem we had when I was a child. Worked great, but the range was limited to about one house away, line of sight, and if the string got wet you could just forget it. ;-)

[c0ncbn3]

The Q2 date scares me, let me tell you why. Back in the late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. We were in the process of rolling out the first Winmodems. Most of you guys are probably too young to even know what a modem is. But the Winmodem was a breakthrough in technology at the time. It was the first modem to off-load the main processing from a dedicated DSP chip to having that processing performed on the users own computer. It made for a much less expensive product.

But it was the last of our modems to get the x2 protocol pushed out to it. x2 was a proprietary implementation of the 56K modem and the precursor to V.90. But it was released before it was ready. And it was released because promises had been made to release by a certain date. There were at least 3 different departments, including my own, that refused to sign off on the release. But they released it anyway. This was the first time a product from USR had ever been released with even 1 department refusing to sign off. And this one that 3 that refused.

It was a support nightmare. We created a lot of angry customers. All because a date had been promised and they were determined to not let that date slip.

I rely on my phone a lot more than I relied on my old modems. I'd prefer they wait until it's solid rather than release it just to meet a self-imposed deadline. Anyone that thinks they are holding off on this release for any reason other than the fact that it's not ready is, IMO, delusional.

<p>i understand the concern but i am sure you also didnt have 6-8 months of another product using this protocol, software, idea, whathaveyou.</p>
<p>in some respects the same thing happened with the nexus, it was heard unreliable and was almost concidered beta at first release with ics,</p>
<p>i mean no self respecting person would have given theyre technology enclined grandma or wife or child that because it would have been horrid,</p>
<p>but at the least the Q2 annoucement will put a fire under theyre rear end to get them finish something they started and also promised.</p>

[midas]

<p>i understand the concern but i am sure you also didnt have 6-8 months of another product using this protocol, software, idea, whathaveyou.</p>
<p>in some respects the same thing happened with the nexus, it was heard unreliable and was almost concidered beta at first release with ics,</p>
<p>i mean no self respecting person would have given theyre technology enclined grandma or wife or child that because it would have been horrid,</p>
<p>but at the least the Q2 annoucement will put a fire under theyre rear end to get them finish something they started and also promised.</p>

Actually I don't remember the time frame involved, but yes we had other products running the same protocol for many months before the Winmodem version was released. It was the last one to get the code. It's the same general principle, software the same, hardware different.

I also understand the idea that nothing gets done without a deadline. That's common in my industry. But when it comes time to actually ship, you have to make it right. I'm not saying they can't still release Q2 and make it right. What I'm saying is I'd rather see them release something solid than to release something to keep their promise. They can do both. But if they can't, I choose solid.

[G8orDroid]

Couple of whippersnappers! I remember the Campbell's Soup Can Modem we had when I was a child. Worked great, but the range was limited to about one house away, line of sight, and if the string got wet you could just forget it. ;-)

Ahh, I remember the soup can modems well. Short range for sure, but much more stable data than the drums I upgraded from. Granted the drums had a tremendous range but there signals were always getting crossed.

[MkVsTheWorld]

Going off-topic for a second, I remember modems and how awful they were. My first modem was a 14.4 kbps and I could barely use AOL or another other ISP. What was most bothersome about using a modem was my sister picking up the phone and kicking me off while I was chatting online with babes all day.

Back on-topic, things are MUCH different now than they were when modems were around. Back then, everything had to flashed with floppies if such a problem occurred or it had to be sent back to the manufacturer. Nowadays, it's just a patch sent out from Verizon or Verizon will Fedex a replacement phone to you. So, as long as Verizon isn't pushing an awful ICS update out to us or one that bricks the phone, we won't have the same nightmare scenario as you did with modems before.

But, I'm a bit skeptical that Motorola will be honoring their promise of a Q2 release now. I'm beginning to doubt that promise as I'm reading that .210 has a bunch of Flash issues. Although, I thought Flash was becoming unsupported? So, maybe we're still on?

[BoneZ]

I thought Flash was becoming unsupported? So, maybe we're still on?

According to Adobe, Flash will continue to be supported in ICS, but will not be supported in Android 5.0 Jellybean and beyond.

One of the main reasons I switched to Android OS a couple years ago was due to Flash support. ICS may be the last OS for me on Android devices going forward unless and until websites start switching to HTML 5.

[SpyderMan]

Earlier today I got a free VZW text telling me that ICS is coming & since it wont have support for text / or is it mms, I should look for other solutions for that.

Didn't say how soon, but, this is something tangible.

Any one get other similar confirmatory msgs fm Big Red? Anyway, I may wait for any gotchas that will be shaken out of the early adopter tree.

Can't hurt to leave rooted 2.36 & Eclipse ROM for the meantime… it'll just cause the upgrade to fail.

Also, I'd like to know how soon we can expect FastBoot files fm our forums woderfully dedicated devs… .I'd also hope that there would be a FB path back just in case…

SpyderMan

[Drinrazr]

I didn't get a txt from Verizon, guessing cause I don't use the Mobil IM app from them, which is the app that is not supported by the new update. But, I just read about it on phonearena.com. Here's the article.

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on Verizon, you’ve probably been waiting with bated breath for the Android 4.0

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roll out. Unless you didn’t wait and installed one of the

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that escaped from Motorola over the last few months. Moto's

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gives them two more weeks to deliver your helping of OTA Ice Cream Sandwich, and text messages being sent to RAZR owners suggests they make just sneak in under that deadline.

Sending out warning texts to owners may seem like an unusual step to take, but in this case RAZR owners that make use of the Verizon Wireless Mobile IM app are going to have the functionality broken by the update, so Big Red is warning you that you will need to download a new

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app after the update. The text message in full reads:

Free Verizon Message: Your phone will soon be upgraded to Android 4.0. At that time we will remove your Verizon Wireless

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IM app because it is not supported in Android 4.0. Please download a new instant messaging app to use IM on your phone. Thank you for using Mobile IM!

So you shouldn’t have to wait much longer – with any luck you may see Ice Cream Sandwich before Android 4.1 is announced at Google I/O later this month.

Hoping this means it will be out soon...but I still have not read any news about any soak test.

[EmericanX]

So they're confirming not only they hope to have the ota out by the end of the month but also 4.1 will be announced by then to... further showing they're behind the android world.. lol. Not a big deal considering almost every manufacturer is.

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[zephyrus14]

Okay. I'm officially calling it. We'll get it within the next seven days.



Edit:

LOL, yeah right

Edited by zephyrus14, 15 June 2012 - 11:34 AM.

[bilbobaggins]

I remember that modem. It's euphemism was Plug and Pray.

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