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[SamuriHL]

That's what I was afraid of..Darn Moto.. :

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#blamevzw

[gemro311]

#blamevzw

Darn Verizon.. but they would always point the finger at Moto..Perhaps that is why Apple has never allowed VSW..to touch their phones..Wish Google would stand up to VSW..

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[tucstwo]

Darn Verizon.. but they would always point the finger at Moto..Perhaps that is why Apple has never allowed VSW..to touch their phones..Wish Google would stand up to VSW..

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[SamuriHL]

Well, for me, I'm done with VZW.  I just made a hefty purchase to that end.  

[gemro311]

Well, for me, I'm done with VZW. I just made a hefty purchase to that end.

Where u off to?

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[SamuriHL]

AT&T with an S4 GPE.

[gemro311]

AT&T with an S4 GPE.

Nice.. I presume ATT coverage where u r is good..Where I am , its useless..

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[SamuriHL]

Nice.. I presume ATT coverage where u r is good..Where I am , its useless..

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My wife and kids are on it.  She just picked up the consumer AT&T S4 a few weeks back.  She's had LTE everywhere I'd want it, so, I just pulled the trigger on the GPE version.  Month to month so no contract tying me in.

[gemro311]

My wife and kids are on it. She just picked up the consumer AT&T S4 a few weeks back. She's had LTE everywhere I'd want it, so, I just pulled the trigger on the GPE version. Month to month so no contract tying me in.

Enjoy ..Maybe one day I'll look at ATT..when their coverage here improves.. but have 22 more months on my current ..and in 20 years .I have had 1 issue and that was at a corporate store dealing with the beotch of all beotches..


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[tucstwo]

Nice.. I presume ATT coverage where u r is good..Where I am , its useless..

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It's useless here too

[SamuriHL]

I have LTE here for both VZW and AT&T so for me it makes sense.  I'm done with VZW's attitude towards development.  Yea, you can buy a dev device, but, it's still loaded with VZW bloatware and subject to their update rules.  At least with a GPE Google directly controls my updates which means they drop when the updates drop.  4.3 will drop next week officially.  Install it, root it using the custom recovery method that we unlocked HD users use now, call it good.  VZW is only going to make unlocking and rooting more difficult going forward.  Motochopper no longer works....Dan has said he's done chasing the root exploits.  Someone may get it done or they may not.  With an unlocked device, it'll get done.  And with Google support behind it, fully functional roms that have the proper kernel support will be there.  Just some things to consider while you wait for a possible new root exploit.  

[tucstwo]

This is all true. The Nexus updates are nice to get right away. I really wish I could get the same kind of connection /service equal to vzw, but sadly it's just not the same. And the ltew

[gemro311]

I have LTE here for both VZW and AT&T so for me it makes sense. I'm done with VZW's attitude towards development. Yea, you can buy a dev device, but, it's still loaded with VZW bloatware and subject to their update rules. At least with a GPE Google directly controls my updates which means they drop when the updates drop. 4.3 will drop next week officially. Install it, root it using the custom recovery method that we unlocked HD users use now, call it good. VZW is only going to make unlocking and rooting more difficult going forward. Motochopper no longer works....Dan has said he's done chasing the root exploits. Someone may get it done or they may not. With an unlocked device, it'll get done. And with Google support behind it, fully functional roms that have the proper kernel support will be there. Just some things to consider while you wait for a possible new root exploit.

Yes those are things to consider..and I will definitely do just that..this will be my first device that will be unrooted for the long haul :(



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[recDNA]

This is all true. The Nexus updates are nice to get right away. I really wish I could get the same kind of connection /service equal to vzw, but sadly it's just not the same. And the ltew

I'm in the same boat. I also hate to give up unlimited vzw data


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[SamuriHL]

This is all true. The Nexus updates are nice to get right away. I really wish I could get the same kind of connection /service equal to vzw, but sadly it's just not the same. And the ltew

 

Yea, that's definitely a shame.  Lack of AT&T LTE is what kept me from jumping sooner.  But my wife picked up her AT&T S4 a few months ago and has been rocking it everywhere we go and it matches my signal on VZW, so, I have no more excuses.

[SamuriHL]

Yes those are things to consider..and I will definitely do just that..this will be my first device that will be unrooted for the long haul :(



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I learned my lesson on the Bionic.  NO more locked phones for me...ever.  A community member was very kind to give me a consumer RAZR HD and I unlocked it the day I got it.  But ultimately VZW's practices are becoming more and more anti-dev.  AT&T's are, too, but, they at least allow BYOD which means I can treat them like a service and they can leave me alone to do whatever I want with my device as long as I don't harm their service or ask them to warranty replace my phone.

[SamuriHL]

I'm in the same boat. I also hate to give up unlimited vzw data


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Then you're going to hate VZW at some point, as your days of unlimited are sadly limited.  It's coming...just a matter of when.  I'm giving up unlimited to switch and I don't regret it.

[gemro311]

I learned my lesson on the Bionic. NO more locked phones for me...ever. A community member was very kind to give me a consumer RAZR HD and I unlocked it the day I got it. But ultimately VZW's practices are becoming more and more anti-dev. AT&T's are, too, but, they at least allow BYOD which means I can treat them like a service and they can leave me alone to do whatever I want with my device as long as I don't harm their service or ask them to warranty replace my phone.

Just don't understand Verizon anti-consumers stance. Its our phone ! Thank goodness there are tablets that are free from these companies control..

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[scwtech]

Hello, I'm an experienced android rooter/custom ROMer. I used this method successfully on my razr maxx hd a month or two ago, and recently my razr maxx hd was updated by verizon with some security patches etc... and I lost root. I have not unlocked the bootloader or installed any custom ROMs on this phone. the system version is now 9.18.79.XT926. I tried running motochopper again and got this from the terminal (I'm on mac, and usb debugging is enabled on the phone):

 

[*] Press enter to root your phone...

 

[*]

[*] Waiting for device...

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

[*] Device found.

[*] Pushing exploit...

3423 KB/s (1283460 bytes in 0.366s)

[*] Pushing root tools...

2120 KB/s (366952 bytes in 0.168s)

4118 KB/s (1867568 bytes in 0.442s)

3316 KB/s (1578585 bytes in 0.464s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk

Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_ALREADY_EXISTS]

[*] Rooting phone...

[+] This may take a few minutes.

[-] Failure.

[*] Cleaning up...

[*] Exploit complete. Press enter to reboot and exit.

 

needless to say, after restarting, the phone is not rooted. did the latest update from verizon break this tool? or do I need to do something to unroot before I re-root? I should also mention that I'm using titanium backup pro and have 'frozen' a bunch of apps... those frozen apps remain frozen now, even though I no longer have root, and titanium backup gives me a 'you don't have root' error when I run it. I don't need or want access to the frozen apps, but thought it was interesting that even without root, they remained frozen.

 

thank you!!

 

[tucstwo]

Hello, I'm an experienced android rooter/custom ROMer. I used this method successfully on my razr maxx hd a month or two ago, and recently my razr maxx hd was updated by verizon with some security patches etc... and I lost root. I have not unlocked the bootloader or installed any custom ROMs on this phone. the system version is now 9.18.79.XT926. I tried running motochopper again and got this from the terminal (I'm on mac, and usb debugging is enabled on the phone):

 

 

needless to say, after restarting, the phone is not rooted. did the latest update from verizon break this tool? or do I need to do something to unroot before I re-root? I should also mention that I'm using titanium backup pro and have 'frozen' a bunch of apps... those frozen apps remain frozen now, even though I no longer have root, and titanium backup gives me a 'you don't have root' error when I run it. I don't need or want access to the frozen apps, but thought it was interesting that even without root, they remained frozen.

 

thank you!!

That root exploit was patched. You now need to root via custom recovery.

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